How to Love Your Work, Part 3: Create a Culture that Honors YOU with Gina Marotta
In the final episode of our series on How to Love Your Work, Gina talks us through the systems that are holding us back in the modern workplace. These structures are heavily masculine with little use of our powerful feminine energy. Due to this imbalance, women are often underperforming relative to their potential in corporate roles while working against more friction than men. Gina explains that by bringing more feminine actions and methods into the workplace, we can actually be more efficient, powerful and creative. This energetic balance is key to loving your work because your genius is your focus, but your feminine energy is how you bring that vision into the world with far greater reach, ease, and joy.
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Steph
I'm Stephanie Hammond and this is the Fruition podcast. On this show, I sit down with passionate people who've brought their dreams to fruition. We'll explore different versions of success and fulfillment and dig in to what was on their minds along the way. With these conversations, I hope we can all expand our sense of possibility. And who knows? Maybe hearing their stories will inspire you to take action on yours.
00;00;28;24 - 00;01;01;24
Steph
Here we are back with Gina Marotta for part three of our three part series, All about how to love your work. If you're new here, Gina Marotta is an incredibly intuitive, experienced career coach who focuses on connecting her clients to their feminine genius. In part one, we discussed how to reconnect to your creative power. That's where Gina's process begins because it reignites that spark inside of you and reminds you what lights you up and how it feels to be lit up.
00;01;01;26 - 00;01;27;10
Steph
Then in our last episode, which was part two, we got into the weeds of how to begin identifying what your unique geniuses this is your innate talent and natural born gifts that will point you towards your most aligned career path and your true purpose. Now, in part three, we talk about new ways to work so that you can feel incredible while you share your genius with the world.
00;01;27;12 - 00;01;47;17
Steph
Gina and I talk a lot about how you have to have a few things in place to feel really lit up and alive in your work. You need to have passion for what you do. The subject You obviously need to have the skills, but these are your innate gifts. So no worries there. But really, really importantly, the environment has to be right.
00;01;47;19 - 00;02;13;01
Steph
So you might be sharing your gifts in a subject that you love, but if you're running yourself into the ground to do it, you won't feel great. And we don't want that. So in part three, we talk about how you can approach work differently and do your work differently. The basis of the conversation and a huge pillar of her work is in balancing the feminine and masculine energies in her clients businesses.
00;02;13;04 - 00;02;44;19
Steph
Gina had a really long and successful career in law before pivoting into her current path as a career coach, so she is intimately familiar with heavily masculine structures and how they influence not only how we might feel in that environment, but how it can actually impact our results negatively. Having worked in investments myself for nearly a decade, I'm also intimately familiar with the feeling of struggling to match an energy that just doesn't feel innate and natural to me.
00;02;44;25 - 00;03;12;24
Steph
I am competitive and very regimented and have trained myself through the years to present with more of a masculine energy, to be taken seriously, to defend myself, to get it done, to follow the systems that have been put in place. And I'm really good at that, to be honest. But I'll tell you that it's never felt natural and something was always missing for me, but I felt like I was the only one with that issue.
00;03;12;27 - 00;03;41;17
Steph
So I realize now I felt disconnected from my purpose, which isn't something that anyone I worked with talked about. We talked about money and we talked a lot about working out. But I didn't get a soul level satisfaction from that, from money. And that really bothered me, that feeling that something was missing and also that I seemed to be alone in that empty feeling.
00;03;41;20 - 00;04;09;19
Steph
So this conversation with Gina really hit home because I'm ready for a new system and a new structure that feels more balanced to me and more natural and more peaceful. She really highlighted for me how much more power, full and efficient and dynamic I can be by bringing way more feminine energy to the table. And if you're not really sure what I mean by masculine and feminine energy, that is good.
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Steph
You're going to learn in this episode. So you're in the right place. I honestly didn't really know how these energies translated to real life day to day actions, but Gina knows this stuff from deep in her bones and makes it so clear for us. Also, check out my Instagram because I'm going to share a day in Gina's life and she's just an amazing example of how to balance the masculine and feminine energies as an entrepreneur.
00;04;35;19 - 00;04;55;11
Steph
So my Instagram handle is Be Fruition podcast. I really hope that you've enjoyed and learned from this series. We put our hearts into this, so I just hope that it's impacted even one of you out there. Please share it with a friend. If you found a valuable, you never know what nugget of wisdom might change the course of their lives.
00;04;55;14 - 00;05;22;24
Steph
And really quick, before we get going, my very old obsession that I need to share with you is the book Tiny Beautiful Things. Honestly, I've probably already shared it before, but I mean, talk about feminine energy. It's a compilation of advice, column questions and responses from the famous Dear Sugar Column that was written by Cheryl Strayed. So she's also the author of Wild that was really popular a couple of years ago.
00;05;22;24 - 00;05;53;14
Steph
But it's so special to me because it just reminds me of like, how complex and messy and beautiful we all are as humans. And ultimately that it's all going to be okay. I like reading it and trust me, she talks about some pretty bad stuff, but it's all always going to be okay. And I like reading it aloud to my people and sharing it with special people in my life.
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Steph
I come back to it all the time when I'm struggling. It's the ultimate, like motherly big sister.
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Gina
Real.
00;06;01;21 - 00;06;29;23
Steph
Honest love, tough love words that I typically need. And it's good for a laugh and I mean usually a cry too, but it's just so well-written. So do yourself a favor and get two copies of one for you and then one for someone that you love. So with that, I hope you enjoyed the episode. Part three of our three part series and have a fabulous day.
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Steph
Okay. Hi, Gina. Welcome back for part three.
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Gina
So excited. This has been so much fun.
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Steph
Just for a little recap for anybody who either hasn't listened to part one or two or has that needs a little brush up. We are really talking about how you can love your work. And like I said in the intro, Gina is a career coach and a spiritual teacher, so she fuzes the two together to help you on this journey from, you know, feeling out of alignment on your current path and wanting more.
00;07;01;06 - 00;07;29;19
Steph
And so we talked about part one. Step one is reconnecting to your creative power. So listen to that episode. If that's where you are and what you're ready for. And then step two is her genius, which is helping you find your genius and cult, elevating that through time. So go back to episode two in part two to hear more about how you might be able to find your own genius and identify with that.
00;07;29;21 - 00;07;58;15
Steph
And now in part three, I'm really excited to get your perspective on this because it's something I've actually thought a lot about and haven't voiced, haven't talked about, haven't had any conversations around the masculine and feminine approaches inside to career and work. And so we're going to talk about, you know, maybe a new way to do things or new ways to consider work and to approach your work.
00;07;58;18 - 00;08;05;11
Steph
And so I would love to kick it off by just hearing from you what even is the divine feminine?
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Gina
Well, I will say the first time I heard that phrase, I was sitting across from a woman named Christina Rilo, and I heard her say it. And I sat up in my chair and I was like, Tell me more. I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. And Christina really became my spiritual guide and teacher. Over many years, I apprenticed with her to learn about the divine feminine.
00;08;27;06 - 00;08;53;15
Gina
And so this is work I've been doing over a decade now and deepening my understanding of it. But what what I will start off by saying is that the divine feminine, just like as we talked about in genius, it's very innate and natural, particularly inside of women or anyone who identifies more with feminine energy over masculine. It's not necessarily gender based.
00;08;53;17 - 00;09;24;04
Gina
You could be living in a female body and identify more with masculine energy. You could be living in male body and identify more deeply with female. The feminine energy. It's really like what's known as like in an eastern traditions is the yin and the yang. They are bodies of energy that have been also called masculine and feminine because they have more closely aligned as a home base, an innate way of being if you are a woman and if you are a man.
00;09;24;07 - 00;09;43;14
Gina
But again, please, I'm not making that an absolute here. It's not all about gender. So these two energies, the masculine and feminine, are the yin and yang. There's that symbol that's a circle. And then there's a black side and a white side. And it's the idea is that are these two energies that go together that complement each other.
00;09;43;17 - 00;10;15;07
Gina
And we call them opposites, but they're like polarities, and they together create a balance in our world. All of one in a person will create imbalance because it's just lopsided. Holding this one space. And the truest expression in any of us is that we are holding both our masculine and feminine energy. That's where we become whole and we can really feel that we can take care of ourselves.
00;10;15;09 - 00;10;43;28
Gina
We are in a sovereign being, but to call it divine feminine, call it divine feminine. What that's really about is a spiritual tradition that is very ancient. It predates the modern religions that are like institutions, and it really has been a way of being of recognizing the power of women. You know, we have this power to give birth.
00;10;43;28 - 00;11;08;19
Gina
We are very connected to our creative source that it can move through us and actually give a life. And so the Divine Feminine is an honoring of the distinctive nature of woman, of feminine, and how we are a creative force in this world, how we are connected to goddess energy and how we can bring that forth to create love and peace and unity in this world.
00;11;08;20 - 00;11;38;12
Steph
I love that you called out that balance between masculine and feminine, because within us, within anything, there is both masculine and feminine. And like you said, it's an energy. It's not necessarily a gender thing on a straight forward sense, but everything needs both masculine and feminine energy for that balance. So it's a good thing we want both. What we don't want is, like you said, a lopsided, out of balance sense of that energy.
00;11;38;17 - 00;11;42;10
Gina
Which is what we have in our professional lives.
00;11;42;13 - 00;12;04;05
Steph
Right? Right. Yes. And so I would love for you to expand upon that because there's so many ways that that shows up that I've been unaware of and that many of us have been unaware of, that we've become more attuned to. But I still think even in the words that we use at one point, you call that like the terminology of trajectory or like I said earlier, skills.
00;12;04;07 - 00;12;21;29
Steph
Those feel like very masculine terms are the concept of you need skills to fall back on. You know, those are very masculine approaches. What are some of just maybe like two or three of the of the things that show up for you that we're still a little bit blind.
00;12;21;29 - 00;13;20;06
Gina
To at this point? Well, let me start with this. We are out of balance in our professional world because our world has been shaped by men with masculine energy, whether it's an industry, a particular business, our politics, it's all been shaped by men and women were excluded. You have to remember that women were specifically excluded until women made their moves to have, you know, be a part of different industries and get their voices heard and at the table and so the beginning of women entering professions, the way that they had to do it was to act like the men and to bring their masculine energy, which they have.
00;13;20;13 - 00;13;59;06
Gina
And they proved themselves that we can do this just like the men. But what I have observed and learned from my own career and it feels like part of just the wisdom I've been given to share is that for women, if we are if what is true is our home base is our feminine, if that's true for you, which I would say is true for me, if your home base is the feminine, then if you're spending most of your time in your masculine energy, you're actually under performing and because there is a lot more you're able to create in your home base energy, it's sort of like the idea of genius.
00;13;59;06 - 00;14;22;22
Gina
What's innate to you is where you're going to really thrive. So it's great that I thrive in feminine, I grow in feminine, and I need masculine to balance me. I if I didn't have masculine energy, I wouldn't have a business and I wouldn't be taking action steps and moving it forward and turning it into things, right? It would just be more ethereal and nurturing and all those things are great, but you need both.
00;14;22;22 - 00;14;46;25
Gina
You need to marry both. But if I only was in my masculine, as I pretty much was in my legal career, what that creates is burnout. If you're a woman for sure, and it's all men are also seeing this burnout because they have to be in their masculine constantly without that balance of a softer, nurturing, creative, spiritual energy.
00;14;46;27 - 00;15;15;29
Gina
And so that's one of the effects that so many of us are seeing is burnout and then the other big clue that the feminine is really needed in professional life is that people are feeling disconnected from purpose and whether a man or a woman, you know, it's very common, especially in the the Gen Z is like they want to feel connected to purpose and the masculine can be just very linear, goal oriented, maybe really excited by making money.
00;15;16;02 - 00;15;36;08
Gina
Maybe purpose doesn't matter. Like that can happen inside the masculine, but our feminine side wants to be connected to nature and helping others. And and if that is not being at all a part of the mix in the balance, we are going to start questioning what's my purpose? Because we're not feeling connected to it. So those to me are really big clues.
00;15;36;08 - 00;15;43;01
Gina
The burn out and the seeking of purpose that the feminine is needed to bring balance to our professional lives.
00;15;43;03 - 00;16;11;11
Steph
I'm so glad that you called out men in that as well, that they're experiencing the symptoms of an imbalanced structure as well. Because I think well, I guess I've I've felt and heard honestly, directly that it's only women that have an issue with the structure or it's only not working for women. But I see that it's not working for men.
00;16;11;11 - 00;16;35;23
Steph
Yes. Well, and even though that they are in their innate, natural, more masculine energy, their home base. Yes. Right. But even so, it's still out of balance even for them. And so if it's like a balance for them, it is way out. Yes, for us. But you mentioned that the more feminine energy would be nurturing, more ethereal, closer to nature.
00;16;35;25 - 00;16;46;12
Steph
What is it like in a professional setting or in these structures? What what does that look like bringing in feminine energy?
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Gina
Yes. So a really good example is, is honoring intuition inside the masculine. It's a very data driven or logical. That's how decisions are made. And I'm not saying that's not valuable. It it surely can be. But intuition taps the unseen. What maybe hasn't been captured in data. Maybe it is something that is on the horizon, or just something that we can't see with our eyes or touch with our senses.
00;17;17;15 - 00;17;48;10
Gina
But it's coming. And so that's a very big feminine gift that we can bring into business is our intuition. It helps us navigate new situations that are unknown. It helps us navigate people that might be saying one thing, but our thinking another. It just helps us really be in tune with what's going on, regardless of what we can see in data or based on the way people are acting towards us.
00;17;48;12 - 00;18;01;21
Steph
I see. Okay. So even for a man bringing in more feminine energy to his work, it might be, you know, sensing an unsaid message from the client across the test, right?
00;18;01;26 - 00;18;02;13
Gina
That's right.
00;18;02;20 - 00;18;27;02
Steph
And trusting that instinct. Absolutely. I see. Okay. And it's very clear how anybody could benefit from bringing that into their work. Okay. Yes. So what from your experience or your perspective, what does a workplace or what do some of these industries look like in from a more balance? Yes. What could they look like if they were to be more valid?
00;18;27;02 - 00;18;28;00
Steph
Yes.
00;18;28;03 - 00;18;53;03
Gina
So I have a really interesting example in the practice of law. So we've talked in other episodes about my legal career, and I actually had an experience several years ago where I got to experience law in a feminine energy. Um, that's very different. So and I've written an article about this, It's published in a book called Readings and Restorative Justice.
00;18;53;05 - 00;19;11;27
Gina
But several years ago I watched a documentary that is by Michael Moore is called Where Where Do We Invade Next? And it's basically the concept was he was going to other countries and looking at how they did things. And you know, he's like, well, America has gone and taken from other countries in the past. There's all these good things happening.
00;19;11;27 - 00;19;36;10
Gina
Let's go take these things and learn from these other countries how we can do certain things better. And he he took on the justice system was one of the areas that he looked at. And he was in other countries that, you know, police didn't carry guns. Jails were open spaces that were meant for people to be restored. People were sitting in peace circles to resolve conflict versus going to trial and trials.
00;19;36;13 - 00;20;02;09
Gina
And I watched it and I wept. I wept because I was like, this is what I always knew would be what I would want to be a part of. Right? I'm working with people who have had maybe committed a crime or at least were accused of committing a crime. And all we want to do is punish them and take them out of society and take away their rights and make the rest of their life really difficult.
00;20;02;09 - 00;20;31;24
Gina
So whatever hardship push them into crime is only going to get worse. Mm. But there are these alternative ways that are based in more native natural practices that would be very feminine about how to actually restore and create peace in our world. And I am not saying that that can always happen. You're dealing with someone who's sick and mentally ill, and would they be able to participate in some kind of a peace circle?
00;20;31;25 - 00;20;41;12
Gina
Maybe not. And maybe then you do need a more punitive, safety based approach. But wouldn't it be beautiful if there was an option to have both?
00;20;41;15 - 00;21;04;05
Steph
Wow, that's so powerful. So powerful. So that's going to be a lot of work to change in our own culture and our own, you know, systems and structures that we have in place. And at a point in my life I thought, well, maybe I could, you know, push back on that and make that happen in my own environment.
00;21;04;05 - 00;21;15;20
Steph
And there are environments that are adaptable for sure. There's some that are big and have been operating in a certain way for maybe 100 years, you know, so.
00;21;15;22 - 00;21;17;12
Gina
Centuries.
00;21;17;14 - 00;21;45;11
Steph
And centuries, three centuries, truly, truly. So, you know, I don't I don't think that we always have to take it upon ourselves to, you know, be the martyr that stays in the environment to change the environment. I think sometimes, yes, if it feels right and it feels natural. But what can we do for ourselves to find a better appropriate balance?
00;21;45;11 - 00;21;47;01
Steph
Yes.
00;21;47;03 - 00;22;15;25
Gina
Yes. And it you're correct in, I believe, going to this question in the sense of like we have to start with ourselves, Right? We really change in our world begins by first changing ourselves. There's the very famous Gandhi quote, Be the change you want to see. So it's I am just, you know, only honoring because I've been indoctrinated in business doing things in a masculine way, just like the way I was trained in law.
00;22;15;27 - 00;22;36;17
Gina
If I'm only honoring that well, that's the world I'm creating around me and I'm continuing to feed into. But if I can change myself and find ways to bring the feminine, which feels good to me and natural in natural to me, when I did work in restorative justice, it felt so natural to me. I'm like, Oh, this just feels like I'm sitting in a courtroom, like loving people, you know?
00;22;36;17 - 00;23;01;04
Gina
It was amazing, right? And so just like it's you create the change in your own self and you will start to then see that you are attracted to other people that are doing similar things. And then you can start to come together. You guys are to create those things in the world here in Chicago, I found out about restorative justice and I immediately took action.
00;23;01;04 - 00;23;19;02
Gina
I was like, Where is this happening? Is is happening anywhere here? I found a woman that became my mentor. She had been doing it for she was in her eighties. She'd been doing it for many years. And then she plugged me in to help me meet people. And I started working on a project to help create a restorative justice court inside of Chicago that had never existed before.
00;23;19;05 - 00;23;36;03
Gina
Right? So, like, it was like I created it and inside myself, this more feminine, peaceful world that we are able to be more nurturing. And so I created inside me, I sought to meet other people who are doing it. I can be involved in projects that are a part of that. So it does start to become a part of your art or reality.
00;23;36;03 - 00;23;38;09
Gina
But you first create it on the inside.
00;23;38;16 - 00;24;08;12
Steph
MM Yeah. And, and even getting to that space where you feel like you're ready to create it on the inside or even start thinking about it for yourself. I know that, like our last conversation in part two, there's a lot of limiting beliefs around that, and you do have to build a sense of awareness that it's not just that you're not smart enough to succeed in this environment, but you're not able to use your energy as effectively as you could if it was a more balanced environment.
00;24;08;12 - 00;24;49;24
Steph
Can you just read a little bit about that and just kind of like the sense of powerlessness that can come along with being in an environment that's heavily masculine for so long? Yes, it can actually really impact your confidence. I've experienced that as well, that you think that you are not like you're not good enough, you're not doing well enough because you're operating in an environment that's not really suited for you and actually what just happened is a perfect example of it, because when you experience a technical difficulty and that's really not your strength, like that's not playing into what your energy is meant for, it can burn you out really quickly.
00;24;49;24 - 00;25;08;22
Steph
And that doesn't mean you're not capable, that doesn't mean that you're not smart or that you don't add value in other ways. But I just love to hear your thoughts on how over time it can be disempowering to operate in that structure or add upon the limiting beliefs that already exist.
00;25;08;24 - 00;25;32;16
Gina
Yes. So if you really thrive inside feminine energy, which you don't know until you play it more playing in your master lot, you may just think that's what's natural. But if your feminine energy is really where you thrive, what you will find is that it is hard to do what is the masculine side? You can do it. It's hard.
00;25;32;16 - 00;25;59;24
Gina
So let's say, for example, competition versus collaboration, those would be the polarities of masculine and feminine energy. The masculine enjoys competition as men are so in sports. And, you know, elections are, you know, by competing, you know, men like to compete with one another. They like trans one another. It's just such a masculine way of operating. But the feminine loves to be collaborative, right?
00;25;59;24 - 00;26;26;04
Gina
More like the beehive analogy. Like we all work together inside harmony with each other. I guess this is, you know, this is we're not trying to outdo someone else. We're wanting to work with someone else. And so if you're in an environment, it's very competitive. But what's more natural, previously collaborative, that can be very taxing. It can feel like you're you don't fit in because it's not your mindset to be approaching things.
00;26;26;04 - 00;26;55;04
Gina
And let's let's let's be the best. Let's compete with our neighbors. Let's build out that other company. Well, I wouldn't be motivated by that whatsoever. I'm more motivated by let's work together, Let's use your talent. My talent all come together and we're going to create something better than each of us alone. So if the environment you're in is only calling for that masculine energy and you don't get to express your femininity, it would feel like something's often you like.
00;26;55;06 - 00;27;07;20
Gina
You know why? Why, why don't why don't I have that that same pride that they do? I just don't feel that way. And so you doubt yourself. That's what happens. You doubt yourself because you're not fitting in.
00;27;07;22 - 00;27;31;21
Steph
Interesting. Going along with understanding your genius and connecting to your creative power. If you're in an overly masculine environment. I would think even if you are operating in your genius, it would be difficult to really express fully in in what you can offer and what you can deliver, even if you're doing the thing that you're supposed to do.
00;27;31;25 - 00;27;40;29
Steph
I guess. Do you have to separate yourself from that environment Then more and recreate a new environment for yourself or.
00;27;41;01 - 00;28;07;15
Gina
Well, again, it starts on the inside. So before you are like, Well, I'm just bringing my feminine power. Just bring it in your own private ways. You can bring your feminine energy and how you flow in a project, right? You can, you can bring it in. Maybe you find another woman who's a colleague and you want to practice your feminine energy together and how you work.
00;28;07;18 - 00;28;47;06
Gina
I think those are great ways to start. And so our feminine really involves collaboration, intuition, being, nurturing, free spirituality. These are things that we don't necessarily see in your traditional business, right? So what would that look like? Let's have a female colleague and she's having a hard day. Well, I could bring my nurturing sense by just being someone who holds space with her, share what she's struggling with, because we're very emotional inside of our feminine, which is a power idea where feelings are guiding us about whether these are aligned or misaligned.
00;28;47;08 - 00;29;08;16
Gina
And so I can work with a female colleague and listen to her, and it's space in the nurturing and she's going to hear a lot of that. She's going to really resolve that issue by having the opportunity to be listened to. Right. So there was created inside feminine as opposed to, let's say, if I were to approach helping her in the masculine, what would I do?
00;29;08;16 - 00;29;29;11
Gina
I would try to fix and solve her problem. Isn't this the thing that women get so frustrated with? I'm like, No, I just need you to listen to me. I didn't need you to tell me what to write down. Exactly. That's a really prime example is just sharing that. Nurturing feminine energy is a very healing, and many need too.
00;29;29;13 - 00;29;54;06
Gina
There's some really interesting statistics coming out about how the happiest people in the world are single women. And I think it's like, number two, you are a married man and it's like, well, wait, why is there a mess here between married and married women? And there's just something about how men really need women to help them emotionally because they don't have those those outlets among other men.
00;29;54;06 - 00;30;16;25
Gina
And so we all need it. But it's really the women who know how to naturally do this, to be nurturing, to be listening to, to hold space for other people. And so we can begin to practice that in our own safe spaces first, and then we can start to bring courage to invite it into other spaces in our professional life.
00;30;16;27 - 00;30;40;22
Steph
Okay. And since you are such an amazing example of this and you've experienced that ultra masculine environment and structures in your past career, how do you balance the two in your work today? Because obviously the masculine has to get done like we just dealt with some technology issues and running a business. But even though some of those things can be frustrating, how do you balance the two in a way that feels good?
00;30;40;22 - 00;30;53;04
Gina
Yes, Yes. Well, I am way on the other side of this. It's so integrated in how I do things. So I kind of just give you an example of like a typical day for me and how I might work.
00;30;53;06 - 00;30;54;13
Steph
Yeah.
00;30;54;15 - 00;31;17;21
Gina
I would add two female colleagues that I'm in touch with probably every day or every other day, and it's a very nurturing spaces like what's going on? How are you doing in prayer? Do most of these functions you know, can you can it's just been something to you, right? There's just very nurturing energy that we are exchanging among each other in our professional lives.
00;31;17;21 - 00;31;46;08
Gina
So never in my sitting here feeling frustrated and alone, I can always text or receive that support that I need. So there's that, that that's very feminine. I pray a lot in terms of how I work. And spirituality is very feminine. That's our divine connection and utilizing that is how we create in the world and how to move forward.
00;31;46;08 - 00;32;11;21
Gina
So before meeting, if it's someone that I'm in spiritual connection with, like these women I mentioned, we pray before our meetings together. If it's somebody that that doesn't feel appropriate with, I would maybe start prayer before that meeting just by myself. And so the prayer is helping to shape the experience by me putting my intentions out of my desires, out.
00;32;11;23 - 00;32;44;07
Gina
But that's it's feminine because I'm tapping into something that's a higher true. So and actually receiving that information and then just sharing it out. And so the feminine is it's about receptivity. That's why intuition is such a big piece. I, I really lean into and listen to my intuition in terms of projects and me really want to do something, but my intuition tells it's not the right time when my intuition says to reach out to this person.
00;32;44;10 - 00;33;04;29
Gina
So those are a lot of the feminine ways that I work. But infusing the masculine masculine is what gives structure. So you and I schedule the time to meet, to record a podcast like there's scheduling. You sent me some questions in advance. Now you're going to go do the technology piece of this. And so once, once you share with me, it's published.
00;33;04;29 - 00;33;29;22
Gina
Now, what am I going to do? I'm going to I'm going to write a social media post and I'm taking actions to fulfill a goal, which is to share this information with others. So that becomes that more active energy of is why they go together. Feminine is very visionary, nurturing, hold something, and then the masculine is like, okay, now I will go and actually bring that into the world.
00;33;29;23 - 00;33;49;06
Gina
Like, did you think of like a soldier, like men. Like men, men, like, really love to go do things. They love a goal and they want to achieve it. So when I'm in my masculine energy, I'm connected to a goal and I want to achieve it and I want to bring something into fruition in the world. So my my work life is a balance of the two for sure.
00;33;49;06 - 00;34;02;22
Gina
I mean, I have a business if I was just a spiritual teacher and there was no financial connection to it in any way, maybe I wouldn't have to use this some energy. But I do use energy.
00;34;02;24 - 00;34;34;06
Steph
Yeah. I love the way that you just described. Can use your feminine energy to receive clearer information, because oftentimes when I think of masculine verse, again, I'm even saying verse, it's not necessarily verse, it's in balance with feminine energy in the workplace. I think that, you know, the feminine energy is less structured, more in flow. But I hadn't thought of it in context to the way that you receive information and even instruction of who deserves to know what to do next.
00;34;34;08 - 00;34;57;28
Steph
What's the better use of your time and your effort and your energy and they really go hand in hand in that way, because if it was more masculine, dominant, you might be pursuing all, you know, one people in a certain market, let's say. But if you balancing it with your feminine energy, you can narrow that list of 100 people to reach out to, to, you know, 50.
00;34;57;29 - 00;35;37;15
Steph
Yeah, that makes sense. Yes. That are going to be more aligned. And in that approach, it's actually far more productive. And initially I had been looking at it as productivity comes from the masculine because it keeps moving you forward and taking action and, and you know, forcing structure. And so I had kind of put productivity in the bucket of masculine energy, but it really that you need the feminine to accomplish that and to do it right to use your energy effectively and effectively.
00;35;37;17 - 00;35;38;03
Steph
That's really.
00;35;38;03 - 00;35;42;05
Gina
Interesting. Yes. It's like they really do complement each other and go together.
00;35;42;06 - 00;35;42;20
Steph
Yeah, but.
00;35;42;20 - 00;36;09;07
Gina
Again, this is where a lot has gotten so out of balance where it's like just about productive. It's just about results. Yeah, just about the money. It's just about what happened today. I don't know what happened yesterday or how long. That's that's where we're out of balance that is only focused on the masculine. And so my work is so much about like go back to balance with the feminine and then we're going to find more harmony and peace in our world.
00;36;09;07 - 00;36;11;29
Gina
We're we're we're just out of balance right now.
00;36;12;01 - 00;36;41;00
Steph
Right. Right. And because we live in such a numbers and driven masculine world, more is considered better, which isn't necessarily the case with the feminine. And so I would imagine I felt this myself, that it could be a little bit scary to take a more feminine approach because it's potentially not as rewarded. And so have you dealt with that in your conversations with your clients?
00;36;41;02 - 00;37;14;06
Gina
Yeah, I feel like there's two sides here. There's what you're saying, which is our feminine maybe guides us to something that is smaller, more quaint, let's say if that's if that's what we call the masculine is. A bit obsessed with size. Yeah. I fair bigger grow it, make it more or make more money. Right. And I would say the feminine is probably more truly innately connected to community and what's right here and right at home.
00;37;14;08 - 00;37;41;07
Gina
Right. So do I need to make my business global now? Now, that doesn't mean I couldn't and it wouldn't be an expression for me. But inside the feminine, that may be our sometimes is that we keep it more of a smaller seed, more of a smaller community. A lot of my business, I have found my truth to be I love working with women who ultimately find that they are meant to lead larger groups.
00;37;41;09 - 00;38;01;04
Gina
So I find a lot of reward on the close relationship I have with these women leaders, right? That I know that my work is then having great impact because they're meeting large groups and it trickles out. But I'm not the one that's out there necessarily with thousands of women that are connected to me, but I work with clients who do have that.
00;38;01;05 - 00;38;33;18
Gina
So. So sometimes that could mean that. But here's the other thing I want to say is it's sometimes being in your feminine can create the bigger results because as I said earlier, when women only are working in their masculine, they can be underperforming for them. Because you're following the logic and the linear path. And what happens is when we unplug, when we just allow ourselves to be in our feminine, which is a receptive energy.
00;38;33;18 - 00;39;01;29
Gina
So at it's at base, at its core, masculine gives feminine receives. And so when we're receiving so much of it is about this divine connection we're receiving just this, this information and just embodying it and moving through the world with it. We're reading out love that is flowing through us. And so when we do that, what our power is do not make something happen to attract to us.
00;39;02;02 - 00;39;34;03
Gina
It's just innate. It's innate for the feminine to attract because the feminine is this like radiant, divine energy and people want to be a part of that. There's a there's a magnetism of that. And so what I have observed many times, clients, whether you're a man or a woman, is when you're in that that radiance, when you're just more in that ability to flow and receive, sometimes you get the bigger result that you wouldn't have, that you were hustling.
00;39;34;05 - 00;39;35;03
Steph
Yeah.
00;39;35;05 - 00;40;09;26
Gina
Something shows up because you're a match, or it may be someone that you've idolized that you would love to have on your show suddenly reaches out to you, right? Because you're radiating this amazing light into the world that that now someone is picking up. So the word that really fits here is the word synchronicity. And so things start to happen when you're in that more receptive, feminine energy that you didn't have to make happen, but you call forward with your feminine energy.
00;40;10;03 - 00;40;49;27
Steph
MM It's like your energy is almost supercharged and start dancing the work for you. You that is so, so interesting. Okay. And so to kind of tie it together for people listening, how does that enhance your genius when you've identified your genius and now you take this more feminine approach to bringing it into the world it sounds like you have, you know, more reach and just strength in your genius by balancing it with your feminine energy.
00;40;49;27 - 00;41;06;12
Steph
But I'd love to hear how you communicate that. It's a huge aspect of your message and your coaching and your teachings. And so how do you kind of explain that connection and the importance of the feminine aspect of your genius?
00;41;06;14 - 00;41;41;24
Gina
Yeah. So my vision of my work and my expression of my genius in the world, it is women creating a more peaceful, loving, inclusive world through their genius. And I believe that this balance between the masculine and feminine that it is right to be happening right now. Women are feeling that call inside ourselves enough permission, enough of us in the professional world where we can band together and stand for feminine energy as being part of how we work.
00;41;41;27 - 00;42;15;01
Gina
So my work is very much about helping women elevate. And I do work with men occasionally who want to tap their creativity, spirituality, their intuition. And that's great. But my biggest vision and my biggest sense of purpose is to empower the feminine to thrive. And so I believe that as women tap their genius and use their feminine energy, we start to tip the world out of a lot of the the pain that is is existing in industries and how people work.
00;42;15;01 - 00;42;51;16
Gina
And we make it more harmonious in more loving and inclusive through our leadership. So so I really want to help empower women and to see how the feminine energy works with your genius, to create this change in the world that that you each each woman feels called and her way to change the world in a particular way. So if using your feminine energy, there's your genius, which gives you the focus, but then your feminine energy, which becomes more of that, how you actually bring your vision forward.
00;42;51;18 - 00;43;19;03
Gina
You know, one of the biggest things that is that people ask is like, okay, they get an idea what they want to do. And then it's like, okay, well, how do I do that? It's a very masculine question and right, that's like, okay, I need a goal and a plan and all that. And again, I'm not saying never use that, but inside the feminine, it's less about how and it's more about I'm going to embody this vision.
00;43;19;06 - 00;43;40;01
Gina
And then it starts to attract to me the resources I need. And like we talked in one of the other episodes about divine timing, and that's part of it is like instead of trying to make and force things happen inside the feminine, we allow we think we know the next step that's needed, but actually something that needs to happen before that.
00;43;40;01 - 00;44;02;14
Gina
So we just be more receptive and open and flowing with what's occurring and listening and trusting that. And so when you're in your genius zone and you're wanting to bring forth whatever your vision ends, when you're in your feminine energy, there's a lot more peace and ease and flow. Joy is how you do your work.
00;44;02;17 - 00;44;26;05
Steph
Oh my gosh, that is so beautifully said and so useful because you're really showing that it's it is a you know, it's not a straightforward process, but there is a pathway to really allowing yourself to feel good in your career and in your work. It is possible. Obviously, you're living proof of it. Your clients are living proof of it.
00;44;26;07 - 00;44;48;09
Steph
But this is really clear for my sort of still in the masculine brain. You know, it's a clear approach for me to understand. Okay, I can see how we can get from step one to step three, because we're really starting with what even feels good to you. Like, allow yourself to feel empowered by that. That's reconnecting to your creative power.
00;44;48;09 - 00;45;13;03
Steph
And so understanding what feels good to you, peeling back the layers that have been built upon you and caked on through the years and just getting back to what feels good. And then you can have that clear space in that clear mind to identify what are those innate skills that are already within you that feel good still and feel natural and bring so much joy to your life?
00;45;13;03 - 00;45;40;27
Steph
And then how can we empower those by embodying that in your femininity? It's just it's a really beautiful evolution and it's so exciting. Thank you so much, Gina, for all of your time and really breaking this down into three different episodes so we can clearly understand how this could be possible for us and how we could start to open our mind to a new way of working and living our lives.
00;45;40;27 - 00;45;53;00
Steph
And ultimately, all I care about is that people feel better in their lives. I want people to feel more natural in their lives. I want to feel more ease my own life. And I want all of us to feel ease in our own lives.
00;45;53;00 - 00;45;56;28
Gina
Well, look at you that you just put a prayer out into the world. That's what it was like.
00;45;57;05 - 00;46;05;29
Steph
Oh, I love that. Is my hope for everybody listening. And I do believe that it's possible. So thank you for showing us the way and being a guide in that.
00;46;06;04 - 00;46;32;14
Gina
Yes. And you just guided us like that's the biggest things we've everybody was is if there's anything here that you say, ooh, I want more of that that feels so good. Just start to speak at I, I, I'm creating with my feminine energy. I'm learning to create with my feminine energy and tuning into my genius. And I want to do what feels good in the world to contribute to speaking it and singing it and holding that you're inside of yourself.
00;46;32;14 - 00;46;37;29
Gina
That's the beginning. That's how the change gets started. Yes.
00;46;38;02 - 00;46;48;22
Steph
Yes, yes Thank you. So where can everybody find you if they wanted to work with you or start, you know, understanding more about your teachings and getting the repetition of these ideas. Yeah.
00;46;48;23 - 00;47;27;13
Gina
So my website is generated DNA and they are actually I have lovely free resources on their IT really encourage people to explore. Also in addition to my website is the Insight Timer app where I'm a teacher, it's a meditation app, it's free. They do have a paid subscription option that you don't need it to access. My my meditations and prayers on their know practices that are designed to help on this path that we've been talking about in this series.
00;47;27;15 - 00;48;05;14
Gina
If you do go to my website, I would subscribe to my newsletter. That's where I send announcements about my coaching programs, my upcoming events, and I am doing a series of events in Chicago in 2024. There'll be one in April two tember. So for women, if you're wanting to come together in community and be with other women who are growing inside their feminine energy and or genius if you want private coaching, that is something that's always available, you can learn more about that website.
00;48;05;17 - 00;48;14;08
Gina
So lots of lots of ways we can be connected and I'm excited to be of service to your audience and life away and amazing.
00;48;14;10 - 00;48;35;09
Steph
Amazing. Thank you so much, Gina. I'm so grateful for your time. Thank you. One last thing before you go. It would mean the absolute world to me if you could tap those cute five little stars wherever you're listening. If you just click the show's name on your screen right now, it'll take you to the shows page where you can rate and review with your thoughts.
00;48;35;09 - 00;48;41;25
Steph
And it is a tremendous deal in the chart that more people can join this community. I am so grateful.